Welcome to 1000PS TV. We were riding two great, “leiwand” motorcycles. 2 Touring enduros, huge touring enduros in every aspect. And after a thorough test ride the 2 enduros have quite some differences. Facts-Vauli, let’s point out these differences with FACTS, please! V: You seem to not even know their names?! Because it’s for one a KTM 1290 Super adventure S and a BMW R1200GS Exclusive in this… Tastes are different, I find the colour boring with its many black parts. But more on it later. Point out differences with facts, well, the KTM – both are twin engines. That’s it. There we have a 75° V2, here it’s a boxer engine. Here 1301 cc, there 1170 cc. From which she produces 160 HP at 8750 rpm. “Only” 125 hp at 7750 rpm. 140 Nm at 6750 rpm. “Only” 125 Nm at 6500 rpm. KTM also states 108 at 2500 revs already. Which BMW doesn’t state but I have to say it still is a beast and I believe it has at least the same amount of torque in these revs because it’s so pushy from lowspeed. What else to mention? Much, much electronics but I think… (N: Do you know the weight?) Yes, 244 kg ready to go at the bavarian. 238 kg for the KTM. Not much difference. She has 215 kg dry plus 23 ltrs. petrol. That makes 238. Isn’t much difference, which might be deceiving because the BMW looks plumpier and if she was more firm on the ground. Which she actually is, the boxer engines mass centre is incredibly good for riding dynamics. It just falls into corners – if you got used to it, it’s extremely good. The KTM is less handy although it’s also a handling wonder. With 1301 cc you’d expect it not wanting to corner. But it’s great! That is it with facts from me now, I’ll jump in later with the electronic packages. You’ll probably fall asleep or maybe I can rehash it a bit. N: The riding impressions are very intense on both and I’ll kick in the door ride away: I like the BMW more. I like it more, it’s the bike I feel very bonded to. I’ll try to make it graspable while we directly head into ride impressions. I sit on the BMW and she manages to create a perfect harmony between agility, stability and comfort. I link myself with the bike, start in the city, from our 1000PS office, curl between th parking cars and then ride on the serpentines here or on the Autobahn. No matter where I ride I never feel distressed but fast and comfortable. And this overall feeling gets more intense the longer I ride the GS. The KTM can do some things better. The faster the corners and the routes, the more it can use its power advantage. What’s fascinating is that she conveys sportiness much more, at the looks already and with the seating position. But the combination of feeling comfy, smoothness and sovereignty is done better on the BMW. Here I always have a bit more stress in the saddle. But I wouldn’t say everybody takes the GS, just guys like me. You feel the differences mainly at the constructional differences. With the Telelever in front the bike doesn’t dive when braking. When you are used to it you really enjoy it on serpentines. That’s the reason why the GS hasn’t been beaten on the Stelvio. You always have the entire spring range ready for potholes, even when braking. Peeps who are new to the GS lack the feel for the front tyre. But once you inhaled it you let it rip. And the low mass centre makes the GS feel 20 kilos lighter and therefore the more stable bike at low speed. The KTM scores when it gets fast. Just because of the power output and the sporty feeling. Vauli, we didn’t arranged ourselves before, so I don’t know which bike you like and what you have to say. So let’s do it live, I’m very interested to hear you out! V: Actually as always and the new model hasn’t change anything. I’ll admit the BMW is an abnormally well working motorcycle. And after switching forth and back I have to say that she is more handy and agile around bends. “Lighter” is relative. 20 kilos less I’d never say because the KTM is very pleasant and thus even more stable to ride around corners. But I’ll admit that the complete concept, this jack of all trades can work for anything the best. Like if I’d had to choose a bike for very long trips it might be the BMW whereas I’d instantly take the KTM as she can do it as well. As you mentioned, when it’s about sportiness, the punch that developes in mid range – it’s perverted what that engine delivers. And what I keep on noticing – I don’t belive myself to be a top-notch rider but how well I can use these 160 horses is abnormal. The TCS which grants some small slides and the engine… And the suspension from WP is whenever it matters, as you mentioned, more precise. You might want to say the KTM is closer to the sporty KTMs than the GS is to the sporty BMW bikes. Here I get more sport feeling than on the BMW. I feel very comfy on the BMW, everything is fine. But the telelever, you have to get used to it. IIt happens faster than in the past because it has a very close character to a normal fork. I ain’t afraid braking before a corner because it works perfectly. But the fun factor, this tiny bit more fun I’ll get on the KTM. It’s also available in a more subtle laqcering but you feel it’s more the funky type and this BMW – there is also a Rallye version with “Cordoba blue” powder-coated frame which looks awesome – this one is not my taste. But ok. Nils, I pass it over again. N: And I’ll hand it back again. We took you through the impressions. I’m excited if some comments see it differently or not. But let’s go further into detail, Vauli. What about features? If you write a list, is there anything that one bike has and the other one doesn’t? With all their monster features, totally pragmatic. V: I’ll take it again because your hand might die off. It takes a while whilst I keep it short. BMW offers a base version which I think nobody is interested in. It has 2 riding modes, “Rain” and “Road” and ASC – they don’t call it traction control. “Antislip control”. But then there are the packages which are a must-have on the BMW. Riding mode “Pro”, there are 4 riding modes or rather 6. and then which allow customising of the modes. “Off-road Pro” turns off the rear ABS as well. The electronically adjustable suspension of the BMW also in 4 modes which adapt. Also new on the BMW, the KTM doesn have this: An automatic function. It’s called “automatic load leveling” which permanently calculates and reads the load on the bike. A heavier bikers weighs more and the bike calculates the perfect leveling between front and back, lightning fast and nonstop. Therefore there is a permanent and perfect leveling of front and back. That this auto function and this is why it’s called Dynamic ESA now – “Electronic Suspension Adjustement” – Dynamic ESA. “Next generation.” is always used for any new model, but this time there is really a difference. And… where was I? Oh yes! Riding modes and suspension. Traction control is the DTC, dynamic traction control. Cornering ABS is included, but the KTM gets that as well. On the KTM I also have 4 riding modes and 4 modes for the electronic suspension. KTM it’s clear, “Ready to race”: The only difference is at the suspension: Here the rear ABS is turned of as well in “Off-road”, here we also get a cornering ABS and a TCS. BMW also states that in dynamic mode some slides are allowed by the TCS. Obviously they spied a bit on the competition and thought let’s do it as well. “We can do it easily”. And it works accordingly. Which means BMW is maybe a step ahead in suspension with their automic leveling. Therefor the KTM has 2 bits directly in front which only it has. Namely a giant and astonishingly good to read TFT display, 6.5 inches. The entire competition has to catch up, it’s perfectly readable. The LCD of the BMW isn’t readable at all in comparison. And the LED adaptive headlight. It is awesome! The 2017 BMW has some optic changes. I must admit I barely notice it. It looks a bit like the pre-predecessor, these metal applications on the “Exclusive” version. Real, nice metal. For EURO 4 the exhaust got a new catalyst, the ECU has a new mapping. There is a shock absorber at the gearbox output shaft and there is revisions on the selector shaft. These are the things that have been reworked. The 1290 Super Adventure S, which bases on the old 1290 Super Adventure, which is the T model now. has practically taken everything from her and added the better TFT display, the sweet headlight, the imo very bad height adjustment of the windshield. It’s really tough. On the BMW it’s so… That’s it. You only get one hand free when riding, Nils, don’t you?! On the BMW, one wheel for both hands. Both have the keyless system, “Keyless ride” for BMW, KTM has “Race on”. You see, the names alone suggest – here we have the tame… (N: Where do you memorize all of this? Do you have a range extender back there?) NO I have a small head so it’s saved in the spine. There is lots of space. The complete concept, if we talk off-roading, is quite similar on both. Both have identical wheel dimensions, front 19 inch, back 17 inch. And spring ranges: 190 mm front, 200 rear. KTM has 200 front and back. Both are similar. On the KTM you sit – well I’d say a bit more “off-roady”. On the BMW a bit more “inside”. But we know there are lots of people who do world travels with the BMW. Obviously they have a ton of fun and the BMW is fit for that. The tastes are different, Facts-Vauli likes this one, I like that one. I hope we could gice you an overview and what might suit the different characters. But one more important thing: Your feedback, how many miles and what travels, alone or with passenger, did you do? What experiences? Than the video has much more value. Sadly we have to head home before it pours rain on us. The innkeeper awaits us and we shall continue discussing. Maybe I can convert Vauli, or he converts me, we shall see!